It really comes down to what a fusion is supposed to be - it is supposed to be much stronger than it's component members together. So you guys think current MUI Goku one shots Jiren? Now when Base Gogeta appeared he effortlessly dodged all attacks of powered up SSJ Broly, broly wasn't able to catch Gogeta by speed. Amicus. Ending with … And yes, hype statements are made before every fight in DBZ. yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. So in this hypothetical, SSJG is 80x SSJ3 as an absolutely unrealistic bare minimum. As I always do with these hypotheticals, here's a quantitative attempt at an answer: SSJ4 is commonly attributed a 10x boost on the prior max power (so SSJ3). s-e-e-k-e-r 193 total posts: 1712 since: Jun 2017. Again, just to showcase things, we'll choose the barest minimum increase of 2x, making it 160,000 stronger than SSJ3 (and 80x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. SO Mui goku will win. How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? So numerically, what does this mean? So as we can see, even when picking ridiculously unrealistically low values for the scaling in Super, it's still ludicrously stronger than anything in GT. Letöltés. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. And yet SSB Goku managed not to be fodderized by Jiren later on. Even if goku was stronger than goten in the buu saga, goten would win. I dont think SSj4 Gogeta would even beat SSB Goku, maybe even SSG Goku. EPIC SKILLS & MOVESET! Vegeta is one of the main characters from Dragon Ball and he's one of Universe 7's strongest Saiyans. It happens. It solos everything espcally MUGENverse and your computer.Anyways,this page is a huge downplay compare to the true Mathrus And even worse,there have a 2 Omegadownplayed version of it:https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus_(M.U.G.E.N) How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku … So, at minimum, Jiren, using just his glare and not struggling whatsoever whilst still heavily suppressed, is 400 times stronger than SSB/KKx20 Goku. Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. Pure Buu, being about equal to SS3 Goku in strength, meant he was 400 times stronger than Goku putting his all into their struggle. MUI defeated Jiren, who is stronger than someone stronger than Beerus, according to Whis, who saw Beerus at his fullest. And finally, MUI is again clearly stronger, and again we'll pick the utter minimum increase of 2x. To be honest, the fact goku thinks broly may be stonger then Beerus yet we know for a fact Jiren is way stronger then any god of destruction should solve this. Plus MUI has better feats in general. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, someone who according to Goku, who has not seen Beerus's full power, MIGHT be stronger than him. First of all, Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren because Gogeta is made of Goku’s and Vegeta’s best traits and multiplies it by a lot so any power-up or transformation Goku or Vegeta gets is added to Gogeta. Yea you see Goku and Vegeta training with Whis, but it doesn't look any different than basic training they've always done. This scales Gohan and Dabura to 4000 Killi, which makes Goku and Vegeta each 1.5x stronger than Gohan. Me personally don’t think MUI goku is stronger than SSB Gogeta, every form of gogeta is quadrupled wat goku is in every way. That being said, the fact that Dai Kaioshin was stronger than Post-ToP SSJB Goku and SSJBE Vegeta is still really funny to me. Base Gogeta would be > SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBE Vegeta is > Omen MUI however is unknown but it wouldn't matter reallyGoku can tap into MUI at will now. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. and if Mui was really stronger than gogeta how did 17 freeza and goku in base form fight jiren then?thinking of goku and vegeta having a PL of at least 20.000. fused that would mean they have 400.000.000. suggesting 17 and freeza have maybe a PL of 15.000 they would have 40.000 together. Gogeta from super went to another dimension not gt gogeta. Gogeta Blue >> LB Jiren > FPSS Broly = MUI Goku. The gap between Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue is as vast as the one between SSJ Goku and SSJ Gogeta (from Janemba's movie) ratio wise, so it's an abyss we are talking about. Do you think SSJ4 Gogeta or MUI Goku would win? Mui Goku, ssjbe vegeta, fp beerus, gogeta blue, gt gogeta, xeno vegito, vegito blue, lssj broly, fused zamasu, ssj3 Kefla, hit, and FP Jiren. This is a hard stomp. The whole god-ki attaining process is still nebulous. Goku at MUI casually toys with Jiren, so he's not unlimited. A ki blast from Broly could effortlessly blow up a planet equivalent or greater than the Earth. Goget has to be weaker than Jiren, or Goku and Vegeta would have tried it on him. nonsense dude, SSJ3 gets beaten by MUI Goku (keep this in mind). Okay, so this isn’t exactly a reason why Gogeta is stronger than Vegito, but it should be. In both the extended edition of the BoG movie and the BoG arc of Super, Goku indicates that he feels that even fusing with Vegeta wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, and that Super Saiyan God, when he obtained it, is a level of power beyond anything he believed could have existed. Play As Spyro 3 Characters In ALL Games! So 2 * 20-99. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku VS Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta - Who is stronger? This Powered up form may be 2 to 10 times stronger than before. Goku compared Broly to 'possibly' being stronger than Beerus. MUI could beat Jiren. Base Kefla also made SSG Goku look pathetic in the ToP. level 1 There are two different fusion forms for Goku and Vegeta in the world of Dragon Ball-- Gogeta and Vegito -- but which one is stronger?The answer is quite simple, thanks to Dragon Ball Super.Having originated in Dragon Ball Z, fusion is a concept that allows two characters to "fuse" into one being.The point of the technique is to drastically increase their power level. We don't know a numerical amount, I can easily see it being 100x, but for the sake of really showcasing how far ahead Super is to GT let's choose the bare minimum (40x) and only make SSJG 2x stronger than that. And finally, MUI is again clearly stronger, and again we'll pick the utter minimum increase of 2x. And i disagree, Broly has way more stamina and strength than Jiren, in the movie "DB Super: Broly" Goku and Vegeta failed to do the Fusion 2 times, so they lost 1h. Gogeta's new traits in Broly were a result of Akira Toriyama's attempt at adding him into the \"Dragon Ball canon\". This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. I wouldn’t say SSJ Vegito is greater than it equal to SSJ4. Golden freeza gets stomped by anyone on beerus's level. Gogeta was pushed to blue by a guy who might be stronger than Beerus according to Goku who hasn't even seen Beerus's full power yet. Fusion is now stated as their combined powers multiplied "tens" of times. Gt gogeta doesn't. Are Super Saiyan Full Power Broly and Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta stronger than Beerus? Goku surpassed Jiren with UI, which is stronger than a god that is stronger than Beerus. Goku and Vegeta should both be at that level. 269 477 Megtekintés. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Mastered Ultra Instinct can't loose. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The only reason Gogeta is even "possibly" 2-C is because he is faaar stronger than Legendary Broly. Is Gogeta as strong as Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku and Awakened Jiren from the Tournament of power? Super Baby2 arrives January 15th, 2021 with Gogeta SS4 coming soon! Seriously! The only scaling for Beerus and Jiren is a magazine scan that claims MUI Goku is 'possibly' stronger than Beerus. I will go with Mui goku because before he went Ultra Instinct. If we take use SSJ3 as our baseline, then two SSJ4 characters have 10x multipliers each. Retaining the memories of both Goku and Vegeta, Vegito is a more cocky, vindictive character than Goku, with a personality closer to Vegeta's. This is a hard stomp. So how could Gogeta possibly be weaker than Goku? So compared to Current Goku, Moro's strongest forms, and Beerus is Jiren...... SSJ Goku on Namek vs a hypothetical Kaioken x 50 Goku for the Freeza fight. Jiren is stronger than a GoD, who is confirmed by Whis, who knows the full extent of Beerus's power,to be stronger than him. shaneherald 3 mo 15 d 3 mo 15 d But I'm not sure how Jiren stacks up to Gogeta. Since Goku and Vegeta are both stated much stronger than Gohan, and their SS2 powers would equal 6000 killi, the lowest end of scale is the most accurate. I'd say it's pretty clear that Jiren is stronger than Broly (fights off Goku, Vegeta and 17 at their strongest without going full power and when it's mentioned that he's above GoD level it's less nebulous than Goku's guess about Broly's power). Blaze. Now SSJB is a simple 50x multiplier. Couldn't find this with a search so here we go. Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) Gogeta Db Super > Vegito > Superman show 8 replies . Again, just to showcase things, we'll choose the barest minimum increase of 2x, making it 160,000 stronger than SSJ3 (and 80x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). And this was right in the beginning when he was still learning how to harness the power, it got considerably stronger after that. broly was stated more powerful. There is no such thing as "base fusion" > indididuals max. A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. Now UIO is clearly stronger by an indeterminate amount. So if MUI/CUI Goku is "X amount" stronger than SSJB Goku in the last fight with Jiren, take that number and apply it to Goku in the Kefla fight, and see how a SSJB Kefla would scale to that. If this was kaioken x 20 SSB Goku vs SSJ4 Gogeta, I do think we'd have a very good fight. Then he has his SSG form which is a lot stronger than SSJ3, then SSB, then kaioken or complete SSB (if you follow the manga instead) and then UI which is massively stronger on top of it. Vegito easily overpowers Majin Buu, even after the monster has absorbed the powers and abilities of Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks and Goten, but defuses after allowing himself to be absorbed to rescue his sons. Becoming 80,000x stronger than SSJ3 (and 40x stronger than the max for SSJ4 Gogeta). Considering against Broly, Super Saiyan Gogeta outperformed Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta and Goku, I'm pressing X to doubt that Goku had any idea about SSG's power when he said Vegito wasn't enough on King Kai's planet. Base Gogeta would be > SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBE Vegeta is > Omen MUI however is unknown but it wouldn't matter reallyGoku can tap into MUI at will now. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. I think it all just becomes too much for SSJ4 Gogeta to handle. But then you find out it's actually stronger than SSJG, making it useless immediately. Now KK20 is 20x stronger again. Ssj gogeta is stronger than regular ssj broly. Goku compared Broly to 'possibly' being stronger than Beerus. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You can't beat what you can't touch. Like Goku, Vegeta is capable of using Super Saiyan Blue to raise his powers to astronomically high levels.Furthermore, Vegeta can even go a step beyond that with Blue Evolution, taking his powers even higher than Toppo, a God of Destruction candidate. ... SSJB Gogeta > MUI Goku > LB Jiren > LSSJ Broly > MUI Goku (Initial) > Jiren > Beerus . Broly is even able to overpower Golden Frieza and fight on equals with Super Saiyan Gogeta who is multiple times stronger than both Goku and Vegeta. Dragon Ball Super: Broly's official introduction of Gogeta into canon has fans once again discussing the pros and cons of Dragon Ball's fusion methods. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. The only scaling for Beerus and Jiren is a magazine scan that claims MUI Goku is 'possibly' stronger than Beerus. While we don't know where exactly Gogeta stands in power here, we know for a fact that he was pushed to SSJBlue by Broly, who might be stronger than Beerus, according to Goku, who never saw Beerus at 100%, so he is most likely closer in power to Broly than to … Who beat the living crap out of golden freeza. NEW DOPEST SKILLS & MOVESET! So how could Gogeta possibly be weaker than Goku? add that LSSJ Broly still kinda kept up a bit against SSJB Gogeta (plus Gogeta felt the need to use SSJB), meaning he's above SSJG Gogeta whose SSJ Form is way … User Info: MUIGogito. Dragon Ball Super Power Levels are all fan made and original, based on official power levels from the databooks, manga, anime and the daizenshuu guidebooks. SSJG is stated as being stronger than Vegito circa Buu. And we know SSJG is easily stronger than this. Ending with 320,000x SSJ3 (and 160x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). s-e-e-k-e-r 193 total posts: 1712 since: Jun 2017. Whether he is stronger than Beerus or not is still up in the air, but he is at the upper GoD level. First of all, Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren because Gogeta is made of Goku’s and Vegeta’s best traits and multiplies it by a lot so any power-up or transformation Goku or Vegeta gets is added to Gogeta. Dragon Ball FighterZ - Official Gogeta SS4 & Super Baby 2 Reveal Trailer. Jiren is stronger than MUI Goku. But given this new information, with or without my headcanon, I'd say he is likely at least relative to MUI Goku, which makes him stronger than Jiren and Broly either way, but there's a reason I said at least. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. Vegeta at blue-er-er is beyond GoD level. Add this together for the fusion (20x) and multiply it by "tens" of times and we have a multiplier range for a SSJ4 fusion of 400-2000x SSJ3. Share Tweet. I believe it was Seth The Programmer who broke down all the feats and statements in GT to show that SSJ4 is far superior to SSJ Vegito. Vegito is cool in his own right and we don’t deny his fancy earrings, but come on, take a look at the truly supreme being: That sick jacket (which only appears on those who successfully pulled off the fusion dance, by the way) that extra spiky hair, and that stoic look. According to an official source, the animanga of the Goku Jr. anime special, Super Saiyan Vegetto, during the Buu arc, possibly could have been stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. That makes him closely more than 100 times stronger than FPPSSB Goku. The reasons being, for one, Goku and Vegeta have gotten significantly stronger throughout the T.O.P, in comparison to the Future Trunks arc. then FPSSJ Broly is definitively beyond Because of this, we can conclude that Super Saiyan God > Super Saiyan Vegetto (since Goku would have known Vegetto's limits and power) > = Super Saiyan 4 Goku. I just can't take a statement from Goku after he's woken up from being knocked out by a character he can't even guage because Beerus uses divine Ki and a form he doesn't even know is real as definitive proof against multiple feats that fusion is a bigger multiplier than SSG. IGN. 3 Can Shatter Dimensions That was more of a shock statement made to drum up conversation. Just how strong is Goku's new form and state?! Cumber stomps because even his restrained base form is stated by Goku to be stronger than Jiren who's stronger than a G.O.D even before he broke his limits while Gogeta Blue is stronger than a dude whose possibly stronger than a G.O.D plus the forms are nerfed in the Broly Movie so the possible multiplier for Gogeta's UI wouldn't be as strong as Goku's from the Prison Planet Saga or the Universal Conflict Arc The strongest existence that come from M.U.G.E.N.verse. So 40-200x stronger. Spyro Reignited Trilogy MOD: 2019-10-14: STRONGER THAN OMNI KING! The only way then that Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta would be able to stand any real chance against Goku in the completed Ultra Instinct form is if the difference between Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Super Saiyan 4 Goku was greater than the difference between UI Goku (ToP) and Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG), and that's just not likely. Gogeta Blue >> LB Jiren > FPSS Broly = MUI Goku. Dragon Ball Super Special 109 and 110 has been released and debuted Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren! Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. Before creation must come destruction - Beerus, A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta. Jiren is at least stronger than Belmod. That makes them more or less equal in strength. Vegito circa Buu was 2 * 20-99x stronger than Goku. stop the jiren dickriding. The answer is pretty clear. so if SSJ Broly is already within that range of strength. Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. Check out the Gogeta SS4 reveal and Super Baby 2 gameplay trailer for Dragon Ball FIGHTERZ! Jiren just glare at the spirit bomb and make into the black hole. this means a mere SSJ Broly is 50x stronger than someone who's much stronger than SSJB Goku. I honestly think that Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance. 2020.dec.20. He wasn't wrong, Beerus was definitely beyond Vegito, he was just also beyond SSG. Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Mods: 2019-10-17: STRONGEST NEW GOKU SSJ ANGEL MUI HEAVEN FORM EVER! el chapo guzman. And Broly was fighting Golden Frieza in that time spent in Legendary Super Saiyan Form, and still managed to keep up with Gogeta Red, who is stronger or equal than Goku MUI, who is stronger or equal than Jiren. DB Xenoverse 2 Mods: 2019-10-15: CHARACTER SWAP! Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. Ssb goku vs Base Gogeta would go like episode 109-110. And the difference between him and UI Goku isn't much as UI Goku was stated to "maybe" surpass Beerus. That becomes 4000x stronger than SSJ3 (and already 2x the max for SSJ4 Gogeta). 10/17/2019. SSJB Gogeta >> LSSJ Broly >>>> SSJ Gogeta >/= SSJ Broly (adapted) >>>> Base Gogeta > SSJ Broly (Initial) >>> Ikari Broly >/< SSJB Goku. STRONGEST NEW VEGETA OOZARU MUI HEAVEN FORM! Using more realistic values takes it from 160x SSJ4 Gogeta to tens of thousands of times stronger. Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. Gogeta Blue is definitely stronger. and Gogeta is too slow to touch MUI Goku. this would include Jiren at his peak, Jiren at his peak is undoubtedly UI level, with MUI Goku being only slightly stronger than him. ... FP ssj Broly is far above ssj gogeta, but just probably above beerus. now SSJ Broly was stated in the novel to be more powerful than anyone fought before him. 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